Is this really smoking gun of Obama’s Kenyan birth?. Multiple copies of the bc surface? Dates, inconsistencies, etc, an explanation from Holly @ Country First:
This explains it all
Here we go:
Ann filed for Divorce Jan. 20, 1964 (Inauguration Day – what are the odds?), and the date was set by the presiding judge for the trial to commence 30 days after Obama SR would have responded to his notification, sent to Cambridge, Mass (Cambridge – what are the odds? ).
Judge Samuel P. King who granted the divorce – last I heard was retired and alive (for now) in his 90s in Hawaii — MAY or MAY NOT have asked to see the Marriage Certificate. BUT, I bet Judge King asked to see Obama JR’s Birth Certificate to confirm Ann’s claims that Obama SR was in fact the father. That is “standard” policy to have a Birth Certificate in case the mother asks for child support from the father (or Welfare) later after the divorce. Judge King probably told Ann to produce a birth certificate before or at trial, which would have been sometime in mid- to late-February 1964 HAD Obama SR answered his notice that was sent to Cambridge.
When Judge King wrote the order on Jan. 23, he had his clerk notify Obama SR via what’s referred to as a “knock and nail”. That is, the postman leaves the notification on the door for (generally) 10 days and retrieves it after that time passes — signed or unsigned. That order was sent on Jan. 23 via airmail from Hawaii and was probably posted on Obama SR’s door Jan. 27-28.
Obama SR’s notification was unsigned by him and apparently IGNORED — either he didn’t want to accept it OR he was NOT at that location.
However, Judge King granted the divorce to Ann Obama (which changed back to Ann Dunham) exactly 60 days from when the original order was request by Ann by default.
NOW, my guess is that Judge King asked to see Obama JR’s Birth Certificate before he’d be willing to grant the divorce, either at trial or by default on March 20, 1964. Ann probably didn’t have the birth certificate when she filed on Jan 20. That’s when this birth certificate would have been generated — before trial for the 1964 divorce.
Important side note: the Certificate issue date of Feb 17, 1964, is JUST A FEW SHORT MONTHS AFTER KENYA BECAME INDEPENDENT on Dec. 12, 1963. TO THIS DATE, this may be the only certificate on Kenyan file today if British documents were sent to the UK for archiving leading up Kenya becoming an independent nation.
If you note the date on the Certified Copy, it was created by the Registrar in Kenya on Feb. 17, 1964. The Kenyan Birth Certificate would have been issued in the midst of the divorce — AFTER the divorce was filed by Ann in Hawaii on Jan. 20, but BEFORE the divorce was granted by Judge King on March 20.
Furthermore, it’s quite plausible that once Ann actually had this Kenyan birth certificate in her hands, and the divorce was granted on March 20, her attorney, George Kerr, counseled her on Hawaiian birth certificate “loopholes” and told her how to file for a Hawaiian “Certificate of Delayed Birth” to get Welfare or OTHER support for young Obama as a child of a non-supporting foreign national.
As Hawaiian law allows, that CODB could have been “upgraded” later to a “Certificate of Live Birth” in the 60s or 70s, which would then be a “root document” of the shorter “Certification of Live Birth” we see today presented as proof of birth from Barack Hussein Obama II.
I can’t vouch for the veracity of the Kenyan birth certificate itself, not knowing how or from whom Orly obtained the birth certificate (the chain of evidence). It may have been obtained quite surreptitiously from the only filed Kenyan birth certificate record copy requested — likely generated from the 1964 divorce.
It’s QUITE possible that all other copies of this Kenyan birth certificate may have been scrubbed from Kenyan archives, but this one may have survived in a lone Vital Statistics office somewhere in Kenya not known about until now.
HOWEVER — the dates DO “line up” for the Kenyan Birth Certificate to be REAL.
Hmmm. Only time will tell. Was this sent forth to destroy the “birthers?” Is this a legitimate copy? Will everyone who looks at this paper be branded a “racist?”
Will there be a showdown? This is about honesty afterall.
Bogus?
Hey, why not change the documentation to suit the need of the moment?
More questions: Hawaii refuses to verify president’s online COLBs Officials mum on images released by Obama’s campaign, FactCheck.org
In June 2008, Ben LaBolt, an Obama campaign spokesman, released the initial short-form Obama COLB to various newspapers including the Los Angeles Times declaring, “This is Sen. Obama’s birth certificate.”
A Huffington Post blogger/college professor states the obvious:
“I do find it problematic that the White House
doesn’t just release the document and end the discussion,” she told WND. “It’s so easy to do. I think most of us do have our birth certificates in our important papers at home.”
The very fact that Obama has fought tooth and nail to prevent any release of his original long-form birth certificate – as well as other documentation
– “suggests there’s something that the president has decided not to share with the public.”

August 2, 2009 at 9:10 pm
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August 2, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Whoa! Why is that attorney, Taitz asking for a suboena to have Hillary Clinton submit to a deposition?
Taitz’s motion, filed yesterday in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California, requests the purported evidence of Obama’s birth – both the alleged birth certificate and foreign records not yet obtained – be preserved from destruction, asks for permission to legally request documents from Kenya and seeks a subpoena for deposition from Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
August 3, 2009 at 12:36 am
HRC is supposed to have known during the primaries about this. I have heard rumblings that Camp Hill knew and had their hands tied.
August 3, 2009 at 2:05 am
Why is everything Hillary’s fault or responsibility? Seems like if Hillary knew, McCain, Edwards, Richardson, or anyone else could have known too. Well, it will be interesting to see what, if anything, happens next.
August 3, 2009 at 2:58 am
HRC was the person who had the intel according to rumors. The others may have known, but they aren’t women. We know what they do to women.
August 3, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Why is everything her fault? Because he knows that she won more votes and most in the US wish she had been “allowed” to win the primary fair and square.
I wouldn’t be surprised if some dirt on her shows up really soon, thanks to The Changeling and Manzilla
August 3, 2009 at 7:35 pm
Oh my, anything to deflect public opinion. Remember Nixon and his shenanigans?
August 3, 2009 at 11:57 am
she may be the only one authorized to request docs from Kenya since she’s SOS.
August 2, 2009 at 11:36 pm
More distractions from the fact the barry is not a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
That is the only thing that matters.
mcorman I’m going to email you something.
August 3, 2009 at 12:35 am
More distractions to pull away from his destructive up and coming crapcare.
August 3, 2009 at 1:11 am
He really should open up the records. This is pathetic.
August 3, 2009 at 1:51 am
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August 3, 2009 at 4:24 am
There’s NOTHING you can do. BHO is President and there’s NOTHING you can do. Read it again. Let it sink in. NOTHING you can do.
August 3, 2009 at 4:31 am
What’s up Ken? Remember Richard Nixon? He used to say the SAME ole thing over and over. Then one day, he went bye bye. What are worried about Ken? Losing an ACORN job or something?
Here are some words of wisdom: Everyone is important, but no one is indispensable.
Former POTUS Richard Nixon had to learn that saying the hard way.
August 3, 2009 at 4:40 am
The Birthers controversy is over..
August 3, 2009 at 4:41 am
I think that they will tell you it is over when THEY say it is over sweets. You are in India, what do you care? OMG, did you send $$$ to his campaign via prepaid credit card? What are you getting out of POTUS in New Delhi, India?
August 3, 2009 at 4:45 am
QUESTION:
What happens to Judge Sotomayor’s confirmation as Supreme Court Justice if the Constitution’s “natural born citizen” Presidential eligibility requirement is subsequently determined applicable to Barack Obama on the basis of Article 2’s exclusion of dual citizenship birth (doesn’t matter whether Obama born in Hawaii since his dad was Kenyan/British citizen at the time)? It would seem prudent, if not dereliction of Constitutional duty in not so doing, for the United States Senate to defer voting on Judge Sotomayor’s confirmation at the very least until there is determination, now imminent, on standing in Kerchner v. Congress (USDC NJ) on that precise issue (Congressional failure to take up the raised and known constitutional ineligibility question prior to declaring a Presidential winner in the vote of the electoral college). For the full Senate now to proceed to vote to confirm Judge Sotomayor (an otherwise lifetime appointment) before then, would be a knowing and very substantial exacerbation of any inherent Constitutional crisis — compounding the previous Congressional dereliction. That is, the Executive Branch, as well as conceivably all actions of a Congress under a President determined ineligible, would leave the Supreme Court as an essential unfettered remaining Branch of the Federal Government, that is unfettered so long as Mr. Obama’s nominee to the Court is not yet confirmed by the Senate.
Will not one Senator, let alone Republican Senator, raise this issue on the Senate floor? The nation is watching.
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August 3, 2009 at 4:53 am
Just like I told Ken and sweets, Nixon tried this shit a long time ago and it didn’t work for him. I do believe that those rats in Congress (who only think of their hides) will do whatever the peasants say when they see war paint. Everything that this man does is in question. You have stated valid concerns. I would like to have an answer to those questions. We should not have a vote on a SCOTUS justice when there are serious questions that have yet to be addressed.
The Congress has learned to turn a blind eye according to the polls. As life becomes more difficult for more Americans, (hear that sweet in New Dehli) they will cry louder. This is an incredible turn of events. Why is it coming to the forefront? POTUS has declared war on the economy. He is about to take over healthcare. The people who actually work and pay taxes are not happy. Someone will have to answer for this White House generated chaos. Don’t hold your breath on the GOP, they won’t do anything until they begin to look for votes. I understand that there are many people who are now turning independent as they want these lazy, good for nothing, bloviaters to work for their votes. Something, that I believe is unheard of to these life long, self serving creatures of Congress.
August 3, 2009 at 12:11 pm
New Delhi huh. & we want these fuckers to handle our mortgages & medical records out of their data centers, & here on their H1B’s?
the Kenyan bc is all over the place by now, but some are linking to the scrib source & don’t see the WND explanation. 1st thing that came to my mind was wnd & Corsi.thx for posting this McN.
McCain isn’t sure he wants to approve Sotomayor.
August 3, 2009 at 1:14 pm
I heard about McCain. There might be a problem with anything POTUS does PERIOD. It’s beginning to look like the old Nixon days.
August 3, 2009 at 5:43 am
Well, mcnorman, seems this post is bringing in some new commenters. Do you think that there are some powers that be that are a little worried? You handled them very well btw.
August 3, 2009 at 5:55 am
Thank you imust. Yes, the blog world is hot on this one. I find it fascinating that Ken would be so adamant about this bc. Let’s face it, POTUS has been unraveling for awhile. His book is filled with exaggerations and some flat out lies. The truth is that he has not been honest with the public. His desecration of the US Constitution is spurring even non birthers into asking what is up with this man?
August 3, 2009 at 9:43 am
Ken, sweets, et al would be surprised to know that their protestations have only made me believe that there may be more to this BC thing than I previously thought.
Wonder what they’re so scared of? especially Ken. Sounds like a very cross, hysterical little girl stomping her foot (“there’s NOTHING you can do”) Oh really? Watch us…..
August 3, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Ken must not have known about Tricky Dick Nixon’s plumbers and how everything turned on him.
August 3, 2009 at 12:27 pm
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/31/poll-28-of-republicans-dont-believe-obama-was-born-in-america/
“Only 47 percent of Southern respondents believe Obama was born in the USA. By contrast, 93 percent of Northeasterns said yes, he was born here, 90 percent of Midwesterners did and 87 percent of Westerners.” if that was a dismissive reference to dumb southerners of film fantasy, it’s actually easier for us to ID a bullshit artist because we live with so many of them – black, brown AND white.
August 3, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Very well sad raging.
August 3, 2009 at 6:34 pm
this is a visual, open both maps.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/Census-2000-Data-Top-US-Ancestries-by-County.png
http://jutiagroup.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/2008_us_presidential_election_final_results.jpg
August 3, 2009 at 9:24 pm
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August 3, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Thank you srini.