NOT DEADLY
more about “Confronted by LRAD Accoustic Weapons“, posted with vodpod
September 25, 2009
Confronted by LRAD Accoustic Weapons That Are Annoying
Posted by mcnorman under Uncategorized[10] Comments
[10] Comments
September 25, 2009
September 25, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Sounds over 80 decibels cause permanent hearing loss.
http://www.asha.org/public/hearing/disorders/noise.htm
The LRAD can (for now) reach 150 db, as much as a deafening rock concert and more than a jet engine or air raid siren. The LRAD is not intended as a communication device. The LRAD is crowd dispersal device whose intent is to undermine one’s 1st amendment rights to assembly peaceably and speak freely. It has no place in a democracy.
September 25, 2009 at 5:57 pm
The LRAD can definitely cause permanent hearing loss when used within 3 feet of a subject. But so can going to a Who concert. It is very clear from the video that no one was remotely close to this range.
Peaceful protests are fine by me. But the organizers of many of these protests encouraged those protesting to act up and cause damage. And they did, throwing rocks and bottles and smashing windows. Violating the safety and sanctity of a business or threatening the police is not a guaranteed freedom of speech.
I’m not a big fan of police intervention but sometimes it is necessary.
September 25, 2009 at 6:50 pm
one goes to a WHO concert by choice, hopefully with hearing protection (I do not go to concerts for this reason), and to listen; this is not comparable to a protest, where one goes to speak and be heard.
your faith in our government that it will only use LRAD on out of control protests is
charmingmisplaced.September 25, 2009 at 9:29 pm
Your belief that you can read my mind is what is misplaced. I neither support or oppose what is being done. In general I think the weapon of choice is indeed extreme. But it is a non-violent and apparently effective manner of containing unruly anarchists that take pleasure in destroying people’s property while hiding behind the First Amendment. Last I checked there is no Constitutional provision giving any of us the right to fuck other people’s stuff up.
And to be clear, this is not “our” government doing this. It is the police of Pittsburgh under order of the Major to disburse the crowd.
September 25, 2009 at 9:30 pm
I meant Mayor, not Major. Perhaps you find that a Freudian slip.
September 25, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Uh huh!
September 26, 2009 at 12:20 am
no, I am dyslexic and make numerous typos, nor am I the grammar police.
Where do you think they got that freaking thing from and why did they bring it?
September 26, 2009 at 12:18 am
It is you who seem to think you can read my mind: I have no problem with subduing out of control protesters: I have an extreme problem with this thing being used to do so. Using a device that causes permanent hearing loss– a device developed by the israeli military and intended for military purposes– on civilians is wrong. Not to mention, everyone coming out of McDonald’s with a cheeseburger is equally affected by this thing, not just protesters.
September 26, 2009 at 2:22 am
Nom, I can’t find the link, but this was a test run to see if it worked. It was loud and annoying. Maybe they did not use it properly, but someone is going to make a lot of $$$ off the city.
September 26, 2009 at 5:18 am
http://coto2.wordpress.com/2009/09/11/san-diego-county-deploys-sonic-weapon-unaware-its-deafening-citizens-permanently/
http://www.politics.ie/current-affairs/106254-sonic-weapon-developed-use-against-terrorists-used-against-american-citizens.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/nov/01/israel
http://www.defensetech.org/archives/001927.html
http://www.noahshachtman.com/archives/001605.html
http://www.defense-update.com/events/2004/summary/LIC041-hs-nlw.htm
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4857417
The LRAD is the tip of freaking ‘berg. They have a magnetic audio wave that can focus sound a mile away. Now is the time to stop this sh#t before it escalates to worse, though LRAD is in itself also unacceptable as a weapon against civilians. The government (who else could have provided a military weapon to a police force) is rapidly militarizing the police, every month sees some new action that was illegal under posse comitatus.
LRAD cost a freaking billion to develop and an individual unit runs $20,000-30,000. http://www.instasol.com/pdf_files/datasheet/Seismic%20Survey%20WhitePaper.pdf
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20051109/news_1b9cruise.html
Supporting the use of military weapons against civilians is wrong.