The letter is well written, but the comments always provide so much more.
Justin Pangilinan
Fellow Commenters,
There is one thing I learned in my young life. I’ve carried it with me since I was a child, as a teenager, and now as a young adult. I shall carry it until the day I die.
TANSTAAFL*
My family crawled out of the provinces of the Philippines, worked hard in the hotel industry in a US Territory, and took a big financial risk by relocating to the wonderful state,the Commonwealth of Virginia. I am now the first college graduate in my generation of the family, and frankly, I consider these idiots to be on the wrong side of history.
We care not for your idealistic views and support for cradle to the grave welfare. We have seen such things called for in other places and watched how their failures brought those places to their knees. We also have yet to see a coherent message. Rage for rage’s sake is ineffective, and a waste of time and sanity. You are not focused, and as such, we do not get what you are trying to say. (I also add insignificant, I wonder how many of your parents are thinking of cutting off the money by now. I’m sure your grades are suffering from a prolonged ‘field trip’.)
We’re a hard working lot and we comprise most of America. So go back to your poetry readings and other such useless babblygook. Once the real world bites you, just note it wasn’t the man that brought you down.
It was yourselves. Bunch of lazy ingrates, Man Up.
Sincerely,
22 years old and having a wisdom better than my ‘peers’
P.S.-
Mr. Thompson, I pity you. I honestly do. Please lay off the union talking points.
*- There Ain’t No Such Thing As A Free Lunch, for those who do not know.
via A letter to the New York City protestors | Campaign 2012.
October 5, 2011 at 9:24 am
Now if we could get the rest of the Twenty-something ingrates and subsidized losers to get a clue like this young man, then we might be a great nation again!
October 5, 2011 at 9:33 am
Tommy, there are still many of these young people out building up America. Unfortunately, they are working and unable to play the bongos and smoke weed while they rag on the system.
http://legalinsurrection.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Twitter-@Cnn-bongo.jpg
October 5, 2011 at 10:43 am
How well I know, all of my children who are know in their 30′s and 20′s are busting their butts to make ends meet in an atrocious economy that keeps taking more and more and leaving them with less and less discretionary funds.
The system is definitely rigged towards the greedy bankers and investment brokers instead of the working class as Nom so thoroughly points out below;-(
The only way I see to level this playing field is get rid of two things:
The 16th Amendment which authorizes government to collect Income Taxes
and
The Federal Reserve Act which authorizes a greedy crooked private banking cartel to to control and print our money!
October 5, 2011 at 11:36 am
We all know that there are those that will die before than happens.
October 7, 2011 at 1:53 pm
Tommy, the Feds should as least be totally prohibited from doing anything that are internal state matters, i.e., schooling, etc….
That OWS (Obama’s Wittle S….) is only a planned distraction from Obama’s and Holder’s evil doing.
October 7, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Fast & Furious should bring this house down, but not many are saying it loudly enough. And they should.
October 7, 2011 at 5:56 pm
AMEN McN!
Blow that horn Gabriel and let’s bring down the walls of Jericho!!!!!!
October 5, 2011 at 10:14 am
Most of the criticisms of the OWS protesters are valid. The accumulation of wealth into the top 1% over the past 20 years did not occur on the basis of its merit, but rather its power over the rest of us. These 1%ers are not “job producers” (especially in the USA) they are trust fund-capital gains-privileged beneficiaries of a rigged system. It isn’t just the poorest people who pay no income tax: thousands of these people get refund checks from the government as a result of parking their assets offshore.
There are 2 significant problems with this protest/these protesters:
1. They are asking for voluntary change/ crumbs from their masters. The only way Wall Street and its associated plutocrats behind the curtains are going anywhere is in a fucking box. Pretending that complaining = doing anything is a ludicrous waste of time. It’s perfectly clear that there’s only one thing that can be done: if one wants change enough, one will do something. Talk is pointless. Everyone knows the real situation, for all they like to bury their head in the sand and go la-la-la-la-la-I-can’t-hear-see-you! And everyone all knows what’s coming as you bend over.
2. It is a monumental distraction from the protest and lawsuit that actually does matter, as it has a hope of success: the Tar Sands/ Keystone XL Pipeline protest. This pipeline is not just an environmental catastrophe it is a violation of the sovereignty of a dozen native american nations. It’s wrong and illegal. Yet without approval: it’s already underway. And unlike the OWS protesters it really is being censored.
In fact the more observant might say it’s been astroturfed by the very entities it purports to challenge, and its present purpose is to obscure the significant challenge of the Keystone XL Pipeline Protests.http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2011/09/indigenous-oil-sands-protest-leads-to-white-house-arrests/
http://climate-connections.org/2011/09/22/canadian-first-nations-us-based-tribal-governments-and-indigenous-advocacy-groups-endorse-mass-civil-disobedience-action-to-protest-canadian-tar-sands/
http://bsnorrell.blogspot.com/2011/08/tar-sands-obama-and-new-censorship-in.html
October 5, 2011 at 10:33 am
You both make valid points. Wealth in this country today is very rarely generated by producing anything because the cost of production is basically prohibitive.
The money and fiat securities markets generate the bulk of today’s wealth which is then diverted to Cayman Island banks and other such offshore tax shelters.
This is why I consistently say the Income Tax is a fraud, the burden of which falls mostly on the working folks and mom and pop small businesses while the aforementioned “rich” pay little or nothing!
October 5, 2011 at 11:21 am
Behind the so-called Federal Reserve and the IMF and the WMO is the Rothschild owned ICC.
This is why anyone who says they think Lynn Fucking Forester de Rothschild is a patriot is fucking well wrong.It needs to go: the Grimaldis, the Lorraines (heh, they still call themselves Habsburgs and Jr is trying to get the laws forbidding him from returning to power in Austria changed), the Rothschilds, the al Maktoums, the House of Saud, the Rockefellers, the Warburgs, the Krupps: they all need to go. And until they go, their edifices including the Fed Res, are not going. Ditto the less regarded billionaires of the Russian Federation and their syndicate empires.
There were non-Constitutional income taxes levied prior to the 16th amendment; I don’t think overturning it would stop income taxes. Nor with such a large country am I sure it is a good idea to overturn income tax; jmo I’d rather cap it and earnings. No one needs a billion dollars while other real people are literally mixing dirt with their flour to extend it.
October 5, 2011 at 11:38 am
Lynn married the guy Nom.
October 5, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Then presumably she’s not bothered by his bank policies; if she had any moral reservations about being married to an evil shark, she’d get a divorce.
October 5, 2011 at 7:14 pm
:headslap: oops I meant the BIS, not the ICC (their man runs that for them as well, but it is not the agency above the FedReses, IMF, & World Bank).
October 7, 2011 at 1:55 pm
The last statistics I saw a couple of months ago reported that about 50% or half of U.S. citizens pay ZERO income taxes. I am not in that 50%!
October 7, 2011 at 3:45 pm
They need help in Alabama. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65405.html
October 7, 2011 at 5:49 pm
That includes retirees and many millionaires.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/stop-coddling-the-super-rich.html
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/general-electric-paid-federal-taxes-2010/story?id=13224558
http://www.onepennysheet.com./2011/08/irs-1470-millionaires-paid-no-income-tax-in-09/
October 7, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Thanks for the 3 links Nom.
I’d not heard of that yet.
October 5, 2011 at 10:48 am
http://www.foe.org/internal-state-department-documents-raise-concerns-new-questions
Documents obtained via FOIA show plotting between US lobbyists for the pipeline and Canada’s government. Ugh everyone is on the take.
October 5, 2011 at 11:20 am
Have a look –
This represents a lot of what I saw downtown:
October 5, 2011 at 11:37 am
I was going to post this Anthony. I am sickened by this.
October 5, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Not me. He told the old fucker again and again that he had a job, he was not a deadbeat looking for a handout, and the old fool wouldn’t hear it or admit he was wrong. I’m with the kid on this one.
October 5, 2011 at 2:27 pm
He also said that he was a college grad. And then a plumber. And that his mother died of stress. But that Wall Street was still calling her.
I think the only honest word from this assclown’s mouth is that he was a drug addict.
Sorry, Nom, but I can’t back you up on this one.
You’re on your own
October 5, 2011 at 5:16 pm
I agree Anthony. This assclown is not looking in the right place.
October 5, 2011 at 2:51 pm
One of my sister’s husband is a plumber with a degree. It’s not an unlikely combination. Having a job in trade does not mean one is stupid; nor does a degree confer intelligence, sadly.
I think by Wall Street he meant creditors. I am not impressed with the protesters (over at your blog); but I thought the old guy who kept telling him to get a job was an asshole.
I’d say the kid’s point was he or his family spent a lot of $ to get him a college education but he ended up working a trade anyhow. His father unfortunately underwent foreclosure, his mother died, perhaps related to the stress of unexpectedly losing he home and being besieged by creditors.
The number of middle class people who have fallen out of it is already (by government figures) at about 1/3.
October 5, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Nom, my point was that this guy is full of shit.
I doubt that he has a degree or is a plumber.
There’s a lot like him here in NYC, and all they want is their 15 minutes
October 5, 2011 at 6:06 pm
You could be right. I certainly don’t know. He wasn’t a prepossessing figure that’s for sure. But I have a knee jerk reaction to people who tell other people that they don’t even know to “Get a job.” My elbow might have accidentally met the old coot’s head if he told me that.
October 7, 2011 at 2:00 pm
The “kid” could be flat out lying. No?
October 5, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Saw this yesterday and am still sick to my stomach.
I have difficulty believing this young person. He says he is a plumber in a union- and yet he is bitching about making $7 an hour? Something does not add up.
God help us- but that “Go back to Israel- Jew” is frightening.
October 5, 2011 at 5:20 pm
I don’t understand it PMM, using the N word is taboo, but not calling out a Jew? Yes, I am hearing the words of the survivors because that is how it began. I have a very old friend who lives in NY. She moved there with her husband as he was dying of cancer. She had her tatoo which would never let her forget who she was and why she was labeled. Some asswipe drew a swastika on her driveway. For crying outloud, why?
October 5, 2011 at 6:28 pm
He is a jew. It’s rude to call him just by that, sure, the kid could have said Mister to someone he doesn’t know, but jew is hardly perjorative. The old dude is wearing the little yarmulka hat specifically because he wants to be recognized as a jew. If he’d called the guy a K*, that would be perjorative, and equivalent to N*, not jew.
The holocaust happened in these kids’ grandparents’ or even great grandparents’ time. It is not nearly so real to them as to us. It would be like you thinking about WW1 or even the Spanish American war. I have 2nd degree relations who fought in WW2. But if you were born in 1990, your parents in 1965, and your grandparents in 1940, you’d have to go all the way back to your great grandparents born in 1915 to have a living connection that can actually remember it, and those great grandparents probably died before you could meet them. But they’ve seen plenty of how Israel comports itself, and while people who use the holocaust as their primary template of judging Israel and jews are generally pro-Israel and judaism, those who do not use this as their primary reference see something else entirely.
October 6, 2011 at 9:00 am
There is little wisdom in blaming one person for what a political machine does.
October 6, 2011 at 9:11 am
Sounds right to me.
October 6, 2011 at 9:13 am
The snots meet the other snots.
http://chicagoist.com/2011/10/05/board_of_trade_has_a_message_for_oc.php
Ugh.
October 8, 2011 at 1:29 pm
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/08/muslim-christian-tombs-defaced-in-israel/
http://www.imemc.org/article/62160
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=425327
This is the sort of thing I mean.
I grew up heavily indocrinated into the jews-&-Israel can do no wrong public edumacation theory. The greater majority of everything I was taught in school I would later learn to be lies.
If I had had access to an internet when I was in high school and seen what Israel is really about, as kids do today, I’d have developed a more critical view a lot earlier on.
October 8, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Add this one:
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=426506
October 7, 2011 at 2:10 pm
IMPEACHMENT NOW!
That OWS is only a planned distraction from Obama’s and Holder’s evil doing.
October 5, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Are we surprised that in hard times anti-Semitism resurfaces?
I predict that about a year from now, there will be a Reichstag event, 2012 elections will be cancelled., martial law declard, and the Constitution suspended.
Myself, I await the Mayan Moment: 12/21/12.
October 6, 2011 at 8:58 am
History will repeat itself because we have not learned much.
October 5, 2011 at 12:18 pm
@Justin Pangilinan
So JP, your family “crawled” out of the Philippines? That’s a long way to dogpaddle, I’m guessing you had the money from the start to fly in plane over here. Since the Philippines provide the 3rd most number of émigrés to the US per year, I’d say you started off with a leg up, compared to émigrés from most countries, ya think?
Then there’s the question of when you arrived and when you went to school. If you are 22 now, then you were born +/- in 1989.
When you were a little baby Justin, I was an adult woman trying to go to school. Let me lay some history on you JP: if you had gone to college before 1983, you had the luck to be able to apply to a college without them checking whether or not you needed financial aid. After, you were shit out of luck. Financial aid and grants were reserved for the poor, especially minorities; it didn’t matter whether or not you had a parent willing to pay, the presumption was if you weren’t poor, your parents wanted to pay for you to go. Except that many fathers had no interest in paying for their daughters to attend. I know, JP, because I was one of them. No financial aid or grant here. There were far less scholarship opportunities available as well in 1983, JP. There was no presumption that all kids were going on to college, so all those ubiquitous scholarships offered by corporations didn’t exist. 1983 was also the first year that many private colleges opened their doors to women applicants (outside of nursing and education); albeit not in the numbers they accepted male applicants. Even public colleges like UVA in your vaunted Commonwealth, only allowed women in those 2 fields until 1973. All those who went before then had the luck to not have to compete with over 50% of the country’s population. That makes a lasting difference. It certainly made a difference when I was going to school and it still makes a difference today. Girls don’t have any family history of educated grandmothers and even mothers unless they are rich. It’s still hard for women to enter into fields dominated by men, even when your test scores are actually better. http://people.mills.edu/spertus/Gender/pap/node7.html Even today, being a man is a huge leg up because you experience preferential treatment while a student. And you get to graduate knowing your career future will be considerably brighter than that of the women who graduate with you. http://www.aauw.org/learn/research/upload/behindpaygap.pdf But hey, JP, that’s not like an incentive or anything, is it?
Today in your rosy Commonwealth, JP, you had your college education subsidized by women—women who are still alive and still paying taxes today, btw– women your mother’s and grandmothers’ ages, who actually paid taxes for an education they themselves were denied. I call that a leg up Justin, my boy. In fact I call it extreme preference.
But like so many people, JP, you don’t know shit about history and you count your own luck as merit. Bite me JP. Just. Bite. Me.
October 5, 2011 at 7:19 pm
I’m with you, Nom.Thank you for doing all the research and putting it all together. BTW, my experiences are similar to what you wrote.I was in college in the 60′s and grad school in the very late 80′s. I cannot tell you just how in debt I was by the time I graduated with my master’s. A far different story in the 60′s.
October 5, 2011 at 2:31 pm
These fools need to be occupying Pennsylvania Ave, not Wall St.
Who the hell do you think empowered Wall St? Santa Claus?
This “movement” is sponsored by OFA/Soros, and I’m not buying it for a second
October 5, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Like the Tea Party, the OWS has been successfully astroturfed/ co-opted. Soros was not initially onboard, nor MoveOn nor any of the unions. It actually did start as grassroots. Before the media coverage it was largely legitimate if a bit pointless, now it’s just a big distraction.
October 5, 2011 at 5:17 pm
A dangerous distraction Nom.
October 5, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Yeah, another OFA/Soros sponsored event.
October 5, 2011 at 3:26 pm
http://dailybail.com/home/sources-in-washington-say-imfs-pot-of-cash-could-be-expanded.html
Sources In Washington Say IMF’s Pot Of Cash Could Be Expanded From $350 Billion To $3.5 Trillion
Remember: the USA pays about 20% of the IMF.
Right now:
$350 000 000 000 x .2 = $70 000 000 000 (70 bn)
$3 500 000 000 000 x .2 = $700 000 000 000 (700 bn)
700bn -70 bn = 630 bn more banksterist debt you get to pay.
It shouldn’t be Occupy Wall Street. It should be Destroy Wall Street. At its root. Tear it up out of the ground and destroy it so it won’t come back again.
And it is the banks and their associated plutocrats and transnationals and organized crime that run the politicians, not vice versa. The politicians are just street dealers, by and large, though more and more scions of the wealthy are trying that racket too.
October 5, 2011 at 6:25 pm
obama is the anti-Christ, and Soros an incarnation of Satan.
October 5, 2011 at 8:32 pm
Alinsky creeps up. “Alinsky Rules Return For Obama”
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=587010&p=1
October 6, 2011 at 3:35 pm
I’d bet money these kids have never heard of Alinsky. Even people my age don’t know who Alinsky was, by and large, nor could give you one quote or even tell you when he lived. At most they’d tell you he was a left winger (mostly but not entirely true).
Plus, they are right to blame the banks: banks are higher up the food chain than politicians. The only thing on an equal footing with the banks are the largest transnationals and historic and modern royalty.
If the congress passed one law unfavorable to the banks, the congressmen involved would never seen another dime of bank funding for their campaigns and they’d never be re-elected. For f#ckssake lobbyists write the laws: lobbyists often employed by banks.
How many freaking rigged elections in a row have we had? Voting will never change anything.
The problem isn’t their target, it’s their manner of approach. You don’t get sh#t bargaining from a position of weakness.
October 6, 2011 at 5:57 pm
The banks are a symptom not the cause Nom.
October 6, 2011 at 6:27 pm
They are a cause: they are run by some of the world’s wealthiest people who have a vested interest in staying among the world’s wealthiest people: they finance wars around the globe, launder criminal monies, and assassinate their opponents.
October 7, 2011 at 5:31 am
They wouldn’t be able to do anything without the money that the politicians collect on their behalf. It’s the wrong door.
Many of these “protesters” don’t have a clue. Some are being paid. This is being generated by few and they know exactly what they are doing. I have never believed that this was a grassroots effort. This is another ploy in the class warfare blame game. We cannot afford the divide and conquer effort to destroy this country.
October 7, 2011 at 7:09 am
“They wouldn’t be able to do anything without the money that the politicians collect on their behalf.”
Sorry, but that is completely incorrect. Tax revenue is nothing compared the monies in the bank reflecting inheritance, investments (which the extreme wealthy had inside knowledge in developing), capital gains, offshore accounts, derivatives, money from criminal enterprise: and most of this money never sees a tax.
Those running the banks are billionaires. They are not just in the top 1%, they are part of the .01%ers. Mine and your paltry little amounts of money don’t mean shit to them. Our tax dollars,as a portion of our overall earnings, mean less still. Our little bank accounts were until a few years ago actually a drag on their earnings: we cost more in services than they got from us in revenue. That’s why the explosion in fees to service our tiny accounts.
The protesters do have the correct focus. These banksterists do run the politicians. JP Morgan was BHO’s biggest (known) donor. He owes them, they do not owe him. He is their spokesman. He does what the transnationals (including energy, biotech, pharmaceuticals), the financial sector, the military industrial complex, the hereditary historical and recent elite says. They say jump and he doesn’t say how high, he starts jumping. And if he doesn’t jump high enough they hit him with a stick and replace him. That’s how it works.
The financial industry has put me and you on the hook already for trillions of dollars of bad debt they generated by fucking with the stock market and creating the housing bubble. And you’ve not seen anything yet because when they’ve got everyone’s house in foreclosure and we’re all reduced to renters then they’ll unload the derivatives bomb which is more than 10x the gdp of the entire fucking world. And you and me will get to pay for it all. We have passed beyond the billions and trillions here and into literally quadrillions of debt. Do you understand that? Quadrillions: there are 350 million people here. One quadrillion would be 2.85714286 million apiece. Per quadrillion. And it is several quadriillion. And that is just what is admitted to by these same fucking economists who set up the strategy of the bankers who created the debt! They have laundered untold trillions more for the transnationals and other criminal enterprise. This is far more even than BHO and his wars, although his wars are also fought on these same .01%ers behalf.
Everything is done on these people’s behalf.
October 6, 2011 at 6:52 pm
Okay Nom, we’re dated now. Not sure about them unaware of Alinsky. Been around for awhile Nom. Barack picked this stuff up at Columbia. Cloward Piven is no shocker either. Ayers and Dohren are very familiar with this stuff. It’s what community organizers lived for.
October 6, 2011 at 7:23 pm
When I went back to college (2005-2009) the kids knew absolutely nothing about any politics prior to Bush2. They knew a few propaganda talking points about Reagan and Clinton (none of which was accurate in the least). They’d heard of MLK and Gandhi, but even then they knew MLK exclusively by a couple of quotes and Gandhi only by the concept of passive resistance. If you said Rabindrinath Tagore, they’d have said bless you, because they’d have thought you were sneezing. They are plum fucking ignorant. They sure as hell don’t know who Cloward Piven was (I’d be willing to bet not one person in a hundred under 50 does) and Ayers they know only as a minor talking point from the campaign in 2008. They still don’t know anything about cointelpro. If you said Noam Chomsky (who isn’t nearly as far left as people who’ve never read him think he is), a fair number would know who you meant, but Alinksy, no way.
October 7, 2011 at 5:43 am
If you go to Columbia or Berkley, you will be taught about all of these people. I will agree with you about ignorance. I taught at the college level and I was stunned at what they didn’t know about. I went to the state board to look up the books that were used. The information is there however, the information (history) has taken a back seat to learning how to score well enough on an exam in order to graduate. It has nothing to do with learning about history or politics. I would say that 3rd, and 2nd tier schools are filled with students who have little awareness of the hows and whys of history. Anyone in a 1st tier school will have to actually direct their attention to the subject matter.
Nom, the bottom line is that this playbook has been out for a very long time. This is Barack’s community organizing background as well as Ayers. Occupy Wall Street! Collective statement of the protesters — Bill Ayers
billayers.wordpress.com/2011/10/05/occupy-wall-street-collective-statement-of-the-protesters/
Why is this pos in the midst of this? OFA? This has not happened overnight, there has been a lot of momentum toward making the useful idiots workout in their play. Don’t get me wrong, there are many things in this statement that I agree with, but when you see Ayers in the mix, beware. This will turn ugly, and those that naively joined in this cause will learn that they were used in the end. Make no mistake, Ayers et al are ready to serve themselves ONLY.
October 7, 2011 at 7:17 am
The insertion of Soros, MoveOn, the unions, Ayers etc is to guarnatee that the Tea Partiers don’t make common cause. That’s all. They certainly do not any of them mean what is being said at the protests! The OWS movement is leaderless by choice. These people may speak for it on the msm, but they don’t in fact speak for it.
I don’t regard the protesters and I think they are waiting their time, and i think their protest is now being used to distract from issues that actually have a chance of making a difference were they properly attended to. But for f#ckssake, the PTB are not going to throw them anything more than a bone. If you don’t agree with the OWS protesters’ goals it’s not like you have to worry about them succeeding or anything.
And as for the Alinsky playbook theory, just, no. That is just a fantasy winger talking point. Leftists never agree on anything, it’s a big part of why they don’t ever succeed.
October 7, 2011 at 7:18 am
“wasting” their time.
October 7, 2011 at 9:02 am
This is no late insertion Nom. They have been seeding for a long time. Class warfare has been around for a very long time. It’s the best way to divide and conquer.
October 7, 2011 at 11:36 am
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/10/wwii-vet-to-wall-street-protesters-i-am-so-proud-of-all-you-people.html
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/10/libertarians-support-wall-street-protest-demand-to-end-the-fed.html
I don’t think these people sound like communists. I mean, marines, ya know?
Just sayin.
October 7, 2011 at 7:37 am
As soon as it gets a little colder, they’ll all be back in their parents’ basements playing with their X Boxes
October 7, 2011 at 8:57 am
yes, I suspect you are right. It’s not like there is anyone hiring that they will be able to get a job.
October 7, 2011 at 10:12 am
I don’t think jobs were on their minds.
I think it was more like “Lets go downtown and get on T.V.!”
October 7, 2011 at 10:22 am
Arianna Huffington is now in on the action as well.
October 7, 2011 at 10:55 am
The one does not preclude the other. i think there are very few people of working age who are not concerned both with the availability of and quality of jobs. Even pompous little clowns who reside in mama’s basement.
October 7, 2011 at 9:01 am
Yes, you are correct Anthony.
PMM perused the internet and found the “occupy demand lists” taken from the USSR Constitution. Jeez, can’t they think for themselves. Don’t they understand that they are being used as a distraction?
http://www.departments.bucknell.edu/russian/const/36cons04.html#chap10
October 7, 2011 at 10:43 am
There’s only one official statement they’ve made: what you are posting is by astroturf. The original protesters have said only this: http://nycga.cc/2011/09/30/declaration-of-the-occupation-of-new-york-city/
October 7, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Which came first, chicken or egg? I call bs. There are many who probably have very good intent to correct what is wrong, but there are far more that are doing someone else’s bidding.
October 7, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Well I’ve already agreed that the protests have been astroturfed and the media is only going to cover the illegitimate part; but the original protesters stated from the beginning: There Are No Demands; they are only exercising their rights to freely assemble and speak freely. Anyone claiming to be speaking for the actual protesters–not the astroturfers– is lying if they present any demand.
October 7, 2011 at 11:01 am
Y’all are worrying about a few faux hippies while the banks are telling you you’re going to pay to bail out the EU’s bankers:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/07/imf-adviser-the-global-economy-could-collapse-in-two-to-three-weeks/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story%29
October 7, 2011 at 12:38 pm
And here’s Sir Mervyn King speaking on behalf of the Bank of England: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/8812260/World-facing-worst-financial-crisis-in-history-Bank-of-England-Governor-says.html
He too
demandsrequests your understanding that bailing outhis parasitic blood sucking mastersthe UK economy with all one’s money is in one’s own interest. Even though one will be bankrupt. It’s for the greater good, you understand.These people are all interconnected over the globe. It’s not enough to simply get rid of our own.
October 12, 2011 at 12:50 pm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/oct/11/goldman-sachs-interest-tax-avoidance
“Goldman Sachs let off paying £10m interest on failed tax avoidance scheme: Leaked documents show top tax official shook hands last year on secret settlement”
October 7, 2011 at 11:18 am
http://politics.salon.com/2011/10/07/the_nypd_now_sponsored_by_wall_street/
In the past year the New York City police Foundation (fundraising arm of the NYPD) has received $4.6 million from J.P. Morgan alone.
& From 2009-2010 it received:
Goldman Sachs: over $100,000
Barclays Capital: over $100,000
Jeffries and Co.: over $100,000
Carl Icahn: over $100,000
The Renco Group: over $100,000
Bank of America:over $75,000
Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp.: over $100,000
“Keep in mind that’s just a single year’s worth of donations. As a private non-profit, the New York City Police Foundation does not have to release detailed donor information, so we don’t know of the the full scope of Wall Street money flowing into the NYPD.”
Only a liar would not admit that is a serious conflict of interest.
October 7, 2011 at 1:03 pm
I don’t see much difference between the host and parasite, do you?
October 7, 2011 at 1:39 pm
It’s symbiotic surely: the difference is, the host can pull off the parasite and dispose of it and replace it with another: the parasite can’t go to another host. Ergo, the host is the greater power,
October 7, 2011 at 3:00 pm
yuck, what a horrible mixed metaphor. Host & symbiont, not parasite.
October 7, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Never. Comfort zone is established.
October 7, 2011 at 5:51 pm
I don’t understand what you mean, could you please elaborate?
October 7, 2011 at 7:15 pm
Nom, the comments are not attaching themselves to where I answered. It is one of the oops in WP. Sorry. I make no sense on this last comment because it was addressed to Buttered. There is no space under that comment, so WP put it where there was.
October 7, 2011 at 8:02 pm
lol, sorry.
October 7, 2011 at 1:49 pm
IMPEACHMENT NOW!
That OWS (Obama’s Wittle S….) is only a planned distraction from Obama’s and Holder’s evil doing.
October 7, 2011 at 3:11 pm
First European bank fails. Rest assured, one way or another, Americans will cover part of these foreign bankers fraud.
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/and-so-it-begins-the-first-major-european-bank-has-been-bailed-out-and-more-bailouts-are-coming
October 7, 2011 at 3:16 pm
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/05/herman-cain-federal-reserve-chairman-tea-party-champion/239519/
Well something new under the sun. Not. This actually came out months ago but I missed it, maybe some of y’all did too: Herman Cain is a former Federal Reserve chairman.
October 7, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Herman Cain says what many think outloud. I just don’t think he is going to be the next POTUS.
October 8, 2011 at 10:20 am
He has said that the Federal Reserve does not need to be audited, that if one isn’t a millionaire it is one’s own fault, and that Rick Perry is a racist for riding past a rock upon which a racist epithet painted by someone else years earlier had been painted over years earlier.
I am not seeing these as mainstream.
October 12, 2011 at 1:41 pm
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/10/11/bachmann-on-cains-9-9-9-plan-turn-those-numbers-upside-dowN
Bachmann actually nails it.
October 12, 2011 at 1:57 pm
hahahaha
I heard.
October 7, 2011 at 4:02 pm
All you need to know about the “Lotion Man” (Jamaican slang for a gay man).
http://www.barstoolsports.com/nyc/super-page/the-lotion-man-danny-cline-is-youtube-gold/
http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=269506713082598&id=178936615125
Any one find any thing else to confirm or deny this?
“Boston Occupy Wall Street Offshoot Organized by ACORN”
http://moonbattery.com/?p=3103
October 8, 2011 at 7:44 pm
Re- Boston Occupy Wall Street
http://www.judicialwatch.org/files/documents/2011/acornspecialreport08222011.pdf
It appears true. Judicial Watch is not precisely reliable, but the research in this appears +/- sound to me; I’m mostly reluctant to say it is on the level because this story has mostly been covered in the reichwing blogs (Stormfront & co) and that always makes me wonder.
October 13, 2011 at 7:55 pm
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/13/conservatives-smear-occupy-wall-street-protests-as-anti-semitic/
It appears the part about him being jewish himself and a provocateur are also correct; certainly the OWS protesters as a group have been smeared (read at link here).
October 7, 2011 at 10:19 pm
http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/political-pictures-just-cause-for-revolution.jpg
October 8, 2011 at 5:48 pm
McN, was it here that I found this link? I can not remember, but it is excellent.
May 29, 2008 4:00 A.M.
Inside Obama’s Acorn
By their fruits ye shall know them.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/224610/inside-obamas-acorn/stanley-kurtz
October 10, 2011 at 2:40 pm
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/10/ge-ceo-protesters-should-root-for-me/
jeebus, I think this nut may win the tone-deaf award of the year, but maybe I am being unnecessarily optimistic since it’s just October.
October 12, 2011 at 9:08 am
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/10/boston-police-tear-down-american-flag-harass-veterans-like-the-iwo-jima-moment-in-reverse.html
October 12, 2011 at 6:03 pm
http://media.salon.com/2011/10/14.jpg
i like this picture: this is from a pictorial of protest signs at the OWS protests, the article writer compares it with Posada (and said it was too bookish, but it was my favorite of the 14).
October 13, 2011 at 6:10 am
http://thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/wall-street-protester-crap-e1318097835465.jpg
October 13, 2011 at 7:56 pm
EWWW!
that doesn’t make my top 5 list.
October 14, 2011 at 9:50 am
Gross out.
October 12, 2011 at 6:15 pm
http://www.onepennysheet.com./2011/10/ge-ceo-immelt-admits-corporate-tax-holidays-don%e2%80%99t-create-jobs-but-says-we-should-have-one-anyway/
WinAmerica. There really is no bottom to these goons’ arrogance.
October 14, 2011 at 12:28 pm
http://www.blacklistednews.com/Whoever_you_are_you_made_my_day%21%3A_IMF_official_ducks_eggs_during_student_protest_in_Turkey_-_VIDEO/16126/0/38/38/Y/M.html
look at the little weasel duck, he looks like he thought it was a grenade!
October 14, 2011 at 12:44 pm
That is a great idea for the next church bazaar. You know Nom, after the GWB shoe throwing incident, all diplomats take a special course in evading flying objects.
October 16, 2011 at 2:08 pm
LMAO, we need to hire Roy Halladay.
October 21, 2011 at 5:28 pm
http://politicalcorrection.org/fpmatters/201110190003
Emergency Committee For Israel Board Member Advocates Genocide Of Palestinians
October 19, 2011 11:24 am ET — Media Matters Action Network
In a blog post celebrating the release of Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit, Rachel Decter Abrams, a board member of the Emergency Committee on Israel, advocates for the extermination of Palestinians, including children. Abrams is married to former Assistant Secretary of State Elliot Abrams, and is the half-sister of Commentary editor John Podhoretz and step-daughter of Norman Podhoretz, founder of the neoconservative movement.
He’s free and he’s home in the bosom of his family and his country.
Celebrate, Israel, with all the joyous gratitude that fills your hearts, as we all do along with you.
Then round up his captors, the slaughtering, death-worshiping, innocent-butchering, child-sacrificing savages who dip their hands in blood and use women-those who aren’t strapping bombs to their own devils’ spawn and sending them out to meet their seventy-two virgins by taking the lives of the school-bus-riding, heart-drawing, Transformer-doodling, homework-losing children of Others-and their offspring-those who haven’t already been pimped out by their mothers to the murder god-as shields, hiding behind their burkas and cradles like the unmanned animals they are, and throw them not into your prisons, where they can bide until they’re traded by the thousands for another child of Israel, but into the sea, to float there, food for sharks, stargazers, and whatever other oceanic carnivores God has put there for the purpose.
In an ad last week, Abrams’ group accused Occupy Wall Street protesters of hateful rhetoric.
October 23, 2011 at 5:35 pm
Sorry Nom, I call that place bs. It’s media matters bs.